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Post by covunistudent on Sept 19, 2006 13:01:57 GMT 1
What does PS L mean?
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Post by Rich on Sept 19, 2006 13:45:04 GMT 1
Penalty Shootout Loss. Basically we can't have draws anymore, if a game is level after regulation time it goes to penalty shots. A ridiculas rule change that didn't need changing.
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Post by Claret & Blue Army on Sept 19, 2006 16:59:42 GMT 1
Straight to penalty shots after regulation time? No more over time?
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Post by marco on Sept 19, 2006 18:24:14 GMT 1
5 mins OT I believe, but I've no idea if it 5 on 5 or 4 on 4 OT
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Post by jakemurrall7 on Sept 19, 2006 23:26:11 GMT 1
5 mins OT I believe, but I've no idea if it 5 on 5 or 4 on 4 OT i think i saw somewhere that it was 4 on 4 but not sure, with how this league is, depends on the stripey   |
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Post by Dave on Sept 20, 2006 18:24:50 GMT 1
Yeah I think its 4 on 4 for the five mins then its penalty shots... 3 each.
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Post by naffer on Sept 20, 2006 21:57:19 GMT 1
Yeah I think its 4 on 4 for the five mins then its penalty shots... 3 each. Correct as per NHL last year. |
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Post by covunistudent on Sept 23, 2006 0:08:25 GMT 1
So whats the points system for a normal win, ET win, PS W, PS L, ET L, and a normal loss?
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Post by genome on Sept 24, 2006 21:01:58 GMT 1
So whats the points system for a normal win, ET win, PS W, PS L, ET L, and a normal loss? Teams pick up 2 points if they win either in regulation, 4 on 4 OT or penalty shots. If you lose in 4 on 4 or penalties you get a single point, and if you lose in regulation, you get nowt.  |
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Post by covunistudent on Sept 29, 2006 18:38:32 GMT 1
We could go on forever about what the best points system is for a league table, but how on earth is a shootout win worth the same as a normal win?
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Post by Claret & Blue Army on Sept 29, 2006 22:49:56 GMT 1
Should be 3 points for a win and only 2 for a shoot out OR use shoot out wins as splits only if overall points are equal
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Post by covunistudent on Sept 30, 2006 11:45:03 GMT 1
Without wanting the league table to have to be worked out by someone with a maths degree, there are 6 ways in which you can win or lose a game. (Normal win, OT W, PS W, PS L, OT L, and a normal loss.)
Therefore surely there needs to be 6 different possible points tallys for any team to get in a match.
How about a 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0 system.
And in football theres only 3 possible results a team can get, and hey not rocket science but only 3 possible points tallys a team can get from any one match.
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Post by *~Samuel~* on Sept 30, 2006 12:04:27 GMT 1
with there only being a maximum of two points for a win it keeps the league closer (no runaway teams who win majority of games) thus keeping the league more exciting and smaller not so good teams interested!! it happened to my football team a few years ago in the youth league only 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw(which admittadly sucked) but it does keep the league alot closer and makes the league harder to win(although if your good enough it shouldnt make a difference)!! just think of the gap it would of caused with blaze losing both games and belfast winning both of theres last weekend (one on penalty shots) they would of got 10 point to our 0!! plus it keeps it more simple!!  |
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Post by covunistudent on Sept 30, 2006 14:38:24 GMT 1
If Belfast won on penalty shots they would get 3 points, and a normal game is 5, to make 8.
And although it might seem a lot closer, it isn't really.
Lets say Belfast win 2 games (in normal time,) and Coventry lose 2 games (in normal time.) Under the current system the points tally would be 4-0 to Belfast. With a 5-4-3-2-1-0 system it would be 10-0 to Belfast. OK the gap increased from 4 to 10 points, but can be closed down just as quickly. If Belfast lose the next 2 games (in normal time,) and Coventry win the next 2 games (in normal time,) the points tally would then be 10-10, just as it would be 4-4 in the current system. The points system would ensure that any team could get 5 points for a win, and therefore although a gap might seem large, it could be closed up very quickly. You would get more points for a normal win, than for a PS Win, which would be fairer in my opinion.
I would agree the league table at the moment is more simple, but I don't think its fair.
So far Belfast have 2 normal wins, 1 OT Win, 2 PS Wins, and 1 normal loss.
So they would get 5+5+4+3+3 to make a tally of 20 points. (The same as 4 normal wins.) The current points system gives them 10 points (the same as if they had won 5 normal games.) Therefore in this example the failure to win 3 of the games they have won in normal time, leads to a loss of points the same as 1 normal win. As Belfast have a 2-1-2-0-0-1 record, it would be the same as a side having a 4-0-0-0-0-2 record.
Theres obviously good and bad points (pun not intended,) about any points system, but a 5-4-3-2-1-0 system, would lead to more rewards for teams to win games in normal time.
The comparisons for the two different points systems are using the current points system:
Belfast 6 10
Nottingham 5 9
Cardiff 3 6
Sheffield 5 5
Hull 4 5
Coventry 4 4
Manchester 5 3
Newcastle 4 3
Edinburgh 4 3
Basingstoke 4 2
And using a 5-4-3-2-1-0 system, the points tallys would be:
Nottingham 5 21
Belfast 6 20
Cardiff 3 14
Sheffield 5 11
Hull 4 11
Coventry 4 10
Manchester 5 7
Newcastle 4 7
Basingstoke 4 5
Edinburgh 4 4
Interesting we have got a different team at the top and bottom!
Now Basingstoke have to win 4 games to get to the top of the league. If the 5-4-3-2-1-0 Edinburgh only have to win 3 games, with an PS loss. 4 wins puts them top by 3 points. So which league table is closer?
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Post by Rich on Sept 30, 2006 19:49:59 GMT 1
I'm personally not a fan of league games going to penalty shots. Maybe I'm to set in my ways because I'v spent my whole life following football but I honestly can't see whats wrong with good old fashioned draws.
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